Another thing I've noticed about firefox: if you "grab" the are between buttons in a normal unified app (like safari) you can move the window around. It's like the title bar is expanded all the way down to the bottom of the bookmark bar. Not so in firefox, where there is no visual cue at all to tell you what part of that window will allow you to move it around.
sdfisher
· 1 year ago
Oh yes, I momentarily forgot about this while posting my complaint: This is my #1 problem with Firefox 3.
sdfisher
· 1 year ago
All too often, the first step in building an open source application is "build a cross platform framework for it to run on." Yes, the window shading is quite annoying.
Another couple examples: - Tthe show/hide widget in the Preferences dialog which (a) doesn't make sense, and (b) causes improper drawing in collapsed mode. - The tabs in Preferences are another example. (I think those are 10.2-era tabs, but they're definitely from prior to 10.4.)
Firefox on the Mac is never going to really look at home until they give up emulating at start working on actually using. The subtleties matter. All in all, I think I'll stick with native browsers.
(Incorrect spelling, if present, brought to you by Firefox 3's poor spellchecking.)
Shawn Wilsher
· 1 year ago
You mean OS X's poor spellchecking then since Firefox 3 now uses the system spell checker.
Steven Fisher
· 1 year ago
No, I mean Firefox's poor spell checking. The dictionary is fine, but the highlighting in Firefox 3 (and nowhere else) is buggy and often doesn't appear.
Asa
· 1 year ago
the style applied to focused and unfocused windows is going to be fixed for FIrefox 3.
hope so...using FF3 with this crazy background-foreground ambiguity is really trippy. do not want.
buzzzer
· 1 year ago
"You’d be risking extreme embarrassment confusing pregnancy and plumpness "
In my first management job, while doing planning for the next fiscal period, I pulled one of my employee's into my little office and asked her when she was due, thinking I'll need a temp for at least a year.
She never, ever talked to me again. The transfer request was on my desk at 08:00 hours the next day....
rdas7
· 1 year ago
It may sound like a little thing, but the background color swap (or lack thereof) is one of the main reasons that keeps me from using Firefox — I run many apps at the same time and am constantly switching between them. I never know where Firefox is (hidden? active? background? hello?)
ArAgost
· 1 year ago
Hi luke, found your (smart) post linked by Gruber, and thought I could share some more observations on the matter. It happened because a window popped out prompting me to update something. I pressed enter, since the "update" button was lit up in blue, but nothing happened. Same when the update finished. Yep, no default shortcuts. The update window had also a jerky progress bar - which seemed a bit to thin, but the more baffling thing was that it had a completely useless lozenge button in the corner. WTF?
Daniel Ha
· 1 year ago
So weird. My Firefox 3 beta 4 is rocking different navigational buttons (at least back/forward). I've seen big roundy on some others' computers as well... curious, curious.
I'd join in the bashing, but Firefox 3 has started working the right way for me recently and I'm just so pleased with it today. I'm sure we'll fight tomorrow though.
Julian
· 1 year ago
The navigation buttons look slightly better if you use small toolbar icons.
Daniel Ha
· 1 year ago
aha! silly me.
James
· 1 year ago
usual firefox GUI nonsense no respect for the GUI, I expected nothing less from Mozilla
In the background, or not
· 1 year ago
You mean the first thing you noticed wasn’t the blue scrollbars in the background? :p
ArAgost
· 1 year ago
- The "native" widgets for the input/controls in webpages are still also not right. Even the google front page looks like ass, with the buttons touching the input box. - If I press a button using the spacebar instead of the mouse I get no visual feedback - Colour management, even enabled, is still soooo wrong. Screenshot: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8654/immagin... (pictured here are, from left to right, safari, camino, omniweb, firefox 3)
duncandisorderly
· 1 year ago
I've stared at this sequence of posts & re-read the original article a couple of times now, & I really think some of you could do with getting out as bit more often, to restore y'r perspective maybe. :--)
AA
· 1 year ago
I have to ask -- how did you get those beautiful icons (particularly the del.icio.us looking thing) in your Safari toolbar? I can't seem to find them using option-key combinations.
Thanks!
lukexi
· 1 year ago
Hi AA, You can find a wealth of symbols in the "special characters" entry under the Edit menu (or option-apple-t). And those are in fact my Del.icio.us tags, thanks to the magic of Unicode (and delicious2safari.app). The only bummer is that the iPhone doesn't support them, so I locate bookmarks on it through white rectangles and black magic.
Sprocket999
· 1 year ago
Holy cr@p! What a load. You don't like the large back button?? Use the smaller version of the icons. You are beefing about the shade of grey??? Holy f*ck! Get a copy of 'GrApple Yummy (Blue)' forcryinoutloud.
I'm finding this browser AND proto to be brilliant AND unique.
Max Howell
· 1 year ago
I think your last comment is nicely apt, that an uncanny valley is being reached. Perhaps the Firefox developers will realise, that on Mac, there are lessening returns for emulating Aqua. I doubt it though, too much has been invested in this route, and when it comes to open source development, time invested and using a single modular solution without exceptions wins out.
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Another couple examples:
- Tthe show/hide widget in the Preferences dialog which (a) doesn't make sense, and (b) causes improper drawing in collapsed mode.
- The tabs in Preferences are another example. (I think those are 10.2-era tabs, but they're definitely from prior to 10.4.)
Firefox on the Mac is never going to really look at home until they give up emulating at start working on actually using. The subtleties matter. All in all, I think I'll stick with native browsers.
(Incorrect spelling, if present, brought to you by Firefox 3's poor spellchecking.)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40...
In my first management job, while doing planning for the next fiscal period, I pulled one of my employee's into my little office and asked her when she was due, thinking I'll need a temp for at least a year.
She never, ever talked to me again. The transfer request was on my desk at 08:00 hours the next day....
It happened because a window popped out prompting me to update something. I pressed enter, since the "update" button was lit up in blue, but nothing happened. Same when the update finished. Yep, no default shortcuts.
The update window had also a jerky progress bar - which seemed a bit to thin, but the more baffling thing was that it had a completely useless lozenge button in the corner. WTF?
I'd join in the bashing, but Firefox 3 has started working the right way for me recently and I'm just so pleased with it today. I'm sure we'll fight tomorrow though.
- If I press a button using the spacebar instead of the mouse I get no visual feedback
- Colour management, even enabled, is still soooo wrong. Screenshot:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8654/immagin...
(pictured here are, from left to right, safari, camino, omniweb, firefox 3)
Thanks!
You can find a wealth of symbols in the "special characters" entry under the Edit menu (or option-apple-t). And those are in fact my Del.icio.us tags, thanks to the magic of Unicode (and delicious2safari.app). The only bummer is that the iPhone doesn't support them, so I locate bookmarks on it through white rectangles and black magic.
I'm finding this browser AND proto to be brilliant AND unique.